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  FAVORITE DRINK....

  by brandnew in

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  me personally.....i think....if it was meant to be mixed ...it would come in the bottle that way.. that said...bacardi gold.

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  Either a good peaty single malt whisky or a dark, creamy stout.
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  BBC interview about 1975 - never heard this before..

  by defender of truth in

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  for any lurkers who don't believe the watchtower taught that the world would end in 1975... rare jehovah's witnesses 1968 interview "armageddon and 1975" london watchtower rep speaks to bbc.

  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npmt-ml-m-g. --------.

  but where will this system of things be by that time?

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  Thank you DoT. I hadn't heard that interview either.

  For any lurkers that have any doubts whether the 1975 fiasco was real or not, below are scans of every single mention of 1975 in the WT publications. See for yourself...

  1975 Part A:

  https://mega.nz/#!GhBxVIyQ!nljtQgaF7luzwVRXG8uKpTamR7x5AzTJj8zGz-rsED8

  1975 Part B:

  https://mega.nz/#!f5hikK6b!e1txHw19qzkc6leEP9LnEKL3KuTgvR8OXl6Ieg99bX4
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  What ARE the fruits that the JW tree produces?

  by TTWSYF in

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  my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.

  so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.

  just asking....sincerely.

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  Awesome analogy Magnum...

  If the JW operation were a farm, the purpose of which is to produce literal fruit, then the leaders should be immediately fired. There would be workers doing everything possible to avoid real work. They'd be looking for ways to appear busy without really working.

  They'd spend a whole bunch of time at boring company meetings talking about producing fruit, but little time actually doing it. They would be lacking in cultivating, fertilizing, reaping, and storing ability.Their marketing skills would be awful. They wouldn't be able to answer questions about their company. They couldn't defend it. They'd run from accusations against it.

  And if you were a worker on that farm and mentioned to anyone at all that you think some of the fruit being packed and distributed is rotten, you'd be dragged to the front gate and kicked to the road in a heartbeat. You would never be allowed back on to the property where your family is living... unless you come grovelling back on your hands and knees to the lead hands and agree to eat and help with packing and distributing that rotten produce again.
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  How many of you left the Org since 2015?

  by Paul Bonanno in

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  i have noticed that many lately have left the org or are in the process of leaving.

  how many of you have left since 2015?.

  this month will be my 21 years out of the org into the road of freedom.

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  Count me in. Fully woke up between December 2014 and March 2015. Got wife to wake up, stepped aside as an elder and in to full fade mode. At the moment we are absolutely loving and making best use of our newly found time on the weekends
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  TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

  david spane does his best to explain it again.

  the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

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  What a load of crap (we all know it's based on a false premise)... but a very smart move on their part.

  It has obviously got back to them that many, many people are having a tough time with this overlapping generation teaching. And as we know most jw's don't care if they can't fully understand or explain something themselves - they just feel safe knowing that there IS an explanation for it and that if need be they can refer people to it.

  Ask any jw about how 1914 came about and 95% will not be able to explain it. But they do know that there is some sort of explanation in the back of the bible teach book somewhere and will direct you there. In their minds it's "problem averted, now let's get back to more superficial jw stuff, you think too much."

  I wish this would be something that would wake a lot up, but instead I can't help but think that this is going to pacify a lot of the still-ins with doubts. And if someone questions the overlapping nonsense from now on, the elders can proudly say "that was fully covered and clarified by the GB in the September broadcast."
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  Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.

  but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.

  so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .

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  Do you find it hard to be around active JW's now?

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.. and herein lies the paradox: i tried to fade in the illusion that i might keep contact with family and friends still "in".

  was it worth it?

  because not only most of them shun me anyways, but i find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "god did it"; those greasy praises to the organization and the governing body; the dumb awe about every jw broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on .... i ask myself: is this why i am fading for ...?

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  Yep jw conversation is definitely getting on my and Mrs Stumpy nerves.

  We were visiting family last week and some super zealous jw's popped in and ended up staying for dinner. The conversation was excruciating to listen to and I threw up a little bit in my mouth numerous times during the evening. We gave each other 'it's-best-to-stay-quiet' looks all night.

  The conversation started off talking about the Royal Commission - how Satan was out to get us, how wonderful Bro. Jackson was, that obviously the holy spirit was helping him, how jw's are way better than the Catholics because we don't hide pedophiles like they do, how horrible the lawyers were to the poor elders, how jw's better not be made to pay compensation because that's not fair and the ones that were "allegedly" abused are just being greedy! I wanted to stab someone in the eye!!!

  Then the conversation turned to the SKE school and how wonderful it is that older ones and single sisters are able to be used in a larger capacity now (not at all because no brothers are reaching out!) and how jehoober is obviously speeding things up before armageddon. They haven't even applied yet, but because of all their prayers and plans they are 100% sure they will be blessed to go. Everyone was oooing and aahhing in agreement. (Vomit moment) Then they say they are flat broke, are living with family, and have absolutely no retirement plans in place when he stops work in 10 - 15 years time. But it doesn't matter because the CO said the end HAS to come in the next couple of years. (Once again I try to control the puke rising in my oesophagus). I actually felt sorry for them at this moment. What a shock they'll get.

  Then the conversation turned to the abortion protesting. Someone said how unfair it is that we are targeted when our kids die because of not accepting blood transfusions but thousands of kids are murdered every week by abortion, which then turned into a huge pat-on-the-back fest about how awesome jw's are by single-handedly making the medical field advance in non-blood surgery. If it wasn't for them doctor's wouldn't even know about it - more puke. It was mentioned that there are far less blood related incidents lately as well which shows jehoobers blessing. I actually broke my silence here and said that maybe that has a lot to do with the fact that jw's do accept many blood products now! Wow you should of seen the death stares I got.

  And that's only half of the crap we had to sit through. Thank goodness I had a bottle of single malt waiting for me when I got home! Sad thing is we might have agreed and joined in with a fair portion of that a few months ago
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  CONFESSION OF A GERMAN WIDOW (A short story)

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  confession of a german widow.

  (a very short story by terry edwin walstrom).

  the widow, rosa hoffberger, stepped out of her large farmhouse and adjusted her gloves before toddling off down the cobblestone path leading into town.

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  Great story Terry. I loved the ending You have quite the writing skills.
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  Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

  by Stumpy in

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  2. friends

  i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

  you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

  what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

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  Right you are Finkelstein
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  London Bethelites Are Agitated!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a source has informed me that a relative who's in london bethel has said that a number of bethelites there are very uncomfortable and embarrassed because the branch has received "quite a few letters" querying why members of the governing body were wearing flashy rings and jewellery on some of the monthly broadcasts, but on the broadcast when the g.b.

  asked for more money from the congregations - their gold and jewellery was not on display!.

  will probably emerge one day wearing sackcloth, begging for yet more donations..

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  Maybe this is why people are upset...